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SUMMARY:The newly elected
DESCRIPTION:Several elected officials that were victorious in November to discuss the future as they see it
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/the-newly-elected/
LOCATION:NY
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SUMMARY:Martin Luther King Jr Holiday weekend- No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/martin-luther-king-jr-holiday-weekend-no-meeting/
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SUMMARY:LIMBA-Taubman Mall at Oyster Bay  Property Development
DESCRIPTION:  \nDan  Perkins working as a consultant to Taubman\, the company that is  proposing the Mall at Syosset made a presentation at LIMBA this morning \n  \nTaubman  builds malls for high end retailers and they are company that builds  specifically to their own standards\, and they enjoy a reputation for  quality. They intend to have Nordstom\, Barney’s and other quality  retailers in this mall \n  \nThe  development they are proposing will have good access to an excellent  network of roads. The site was\, in the past contaminated\, but Taubman  put the resources into the property to clean it up in 2004. While this  has been termed a "Mega-mall" it is only 39 acres\, a fraction of the  size of Roosevelt Field\, and 2/3 the size of Walt Whitman Mall. \n  \nAccording  to Perkins the property is zoned industrial. Indeed it is surrounded by  industrial users\, so the impact on residential users is quite minimal.  The commercial use as proposed by Taubman is the issue\, but according to  audience member and former utility executive Dr Matt Cordaro\, that site  was once considered a prospect for a baseload energy plant. An  industrial use of that nature would provide few jobs and would seem to  be less desirable than the new proposed use. \n  \nThe  mall construction would provide 3500 union scale jobs. The resulting  2000 retail jobs in high value merchandise would be quite high as well.  It is expected the salaries would be about $80 million for the people  working there. There would be about $5million dollars in tax revenues  paid in local real estate taxes\, and there would be little or no stress  on the local school system. The presenter made many good points  including Taubman’s reputation of being a good neighbor. \n  \nWe  at LIMBA are fortunate to have many experts in various disciplines. The  following piece was contributed by another LIMBA member\, traffic and  planning expert Arvind Vora. \n"Zoning  laws have basic purpose of maximum utilization of land for the well  being of the people in that jurisdiction\, i.e. Village or Town. For the  health of our body well balanced diet is necessary so is the balance use  of land for the well being of our communities. For proper use of land  master plan is devised and every generation or so it is updated to  accommodate changes in our lifestyle and changes in the society. \nThe  land where Upscale/Boutique Mall is proposed is currently zoned as an  industrial use. Person of Taubman’s stature knows very well that buyer  of property undertakes a substantial risk if contemplated purpose of the  land is other than industrial. Community would have no ground to oppose  any industrial use but they are well within their rights to oppose  change of zoning. One can think of many creative industrial usages where  traffic mitigations\, community/school opposition and host of other  factors commonly labeled NIMBYISM do not play a role. Newly invented  chip by IBM or host of high tech product can be manufactured here. \n  \nAs  to traffic the land is bounded by best possible transportation network  i.e. highways & railroads. Both Northern Parkway and Long Island  Expressway are the best possible roadways Long Island has seen and will  ever see in the near future. Both roadways carry traffic in excess of  design capacity (happens to be the case for all limited access highways  in and around NYC.)We traffic engineers are capable of finding  mitigating measures but at what cost? Who are the best judges:  \nResidents  who have invested their life; elected officials\, in power for a short  duration; investors\, whose main goal is to increase profits; soft power  professionals be they planners\, traffic engineers\, PR \, consultants and  so on. \nConstruction  jobs\, tax revenues and permanent jobs will be created even with proper  industrial usage or for that matter any usage." \n  \nArvind Vora\,  a retired traffic Engineer with 40 years of traffic experience on Long  Island has not represented any party associated with the Mall in the  past or at present.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/limba-taubman-mall-at-oyster-bay-property-development/
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SUMMARY:LIMBA-Dr Pearl Kamer at Farmingdale College\, Knapp Hall
DESCRIPTION:Today’s  experience at LIMBA was not only an opportunity to learn more about  Long Island\, it was also an opportunity for students to see what we do  at LIMBA. This meeting was held on the Farmingdale Campus in the  University Club. The students in the room were encouraged to participate  in the Q&A portion and they did\, enthusiastically. \n  \nDr  Pearl Kamer\, Chief Economist for the Long Island Association and  President of the Farmingdale College Council was our speaker this  morning. \n  \nPearl  began with optimistic news about the national economy. The percentage  of those without jobs has gone down. The number of people counted  among the unemployed had gone down nationwide. The operative word here  is "counted". We no longer count those people who have surrendered and  are no longer looking for work. In addition to that we give equal status  of a job that pays half as much as another job lost the same weight. So  if you lose 1\,000 jobs averaging $70\,000 and replace those 1.000 jobs  with ones that average $35\,000 your stats will look the same\, but the  effect on the economy will be significantly different. It gets worse;  part time work is also included. In other words we are getting slightly  better\, but we are not "out of the woods" \n  \nDr  Kamer addressed the European sovereign risk problem. She is wary of the  ill effects of another European collapse. It could happen that there  may be trouble ahead \n  \nShe  then spoke about the housing crises. She covered the causes. Banks made  obtaining a mortgage insanely easy\, and borrowers were irresponsible  and unrealistic about their ability to pay. The overhang of foreclosures  continue largely because banks are unwilling to make those reductions  of principal that would facilitate some people staying in their homes.  Others that are in even worse financial shape\, couldn’t hold on to their  homes no matter how accommodating the bank became. So the slough out  will be long and costly to the society in general. Home values on ALL  homes will remain weak during this readjustment. \n  \nManufacturing  was another issue handled by the speaker. Manufacturing has been in a  long decline for about 5 decades and now comprises about 10% of the  national GDP. That could rise with the advent of highly specialized  manufacturing. The vocational schools and community colleges are already  teaching many of the skills that will be needed. Again education is a  long-term commitment with a long-term pay-off. \n  \nWhen  we wrapped up the session the students understood the concept of  shaping public policy by participating in the discussion with policy  makers. The conversation around the room after the meeting convinced me  that this was a worthy experiment. Dr Keen\, Farmingdale’s president\,  participated in the program and he agreed.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/limba-dr-pearl-kamer-at-farmingdale-college-knapp-hall/
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