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SUMMARY:Steve Jones "Water and Land Use Principles"
DESCRIPTION:Today’s meeting sponsor\, Cliff Sondock\, the Executive Director of The Land Use Institute\, and Steve Jones\, CEO of Suffolk County Water Authority\, presented a program to dispel myths about water and land use.\n \nAccording to Mr Sondock\, water quality preservation is being used as an excuse to limit how land may be used. Whatever arguments are being used to limit development\, water should definitely not one of them\, according to our presenters.\n \nMr. Jones went into a fairly detailed explanation of how water is extracted and treated. There are several aquifers that can be accessed by the water company. Each of them having their own benefits and cost. However in all cases the water being extracted can be treated and used\, it’s really just a matter of cost. In most cases it makes sense to avoid contamination by creating wells where the water has not suffered any adulteration. The SCWA’s operating principle is to extract water at the lowest cost without compromising quality. \n \nSome of the myths that were cited are;\n    Development is always harmful to the water supply\n    Development near drinking water well is especially harmful\n    Too much development will cause us to run out of drinking water\n    Underground aquifers once polluted can never be cleaned up\n \nThe water that is stored in the vast sand bank of long island is believed to be 100 Trillion gallons. It would take 300 years to run out of water at our present use rates if it never rained during that period. Long Island with an average annual rainfall of 40 inches is far more than is needed. Less than 20 inches is needed to replace the water we use. \n \nThis ever accumulating dome of water leaches out into the ocean and the sound despite the fact that we are constantly using it. Each of the “myths” are not true mostly attributable to this overflowing vast supply water. Where contamination is found\, remedial methods may prove too costly\, and that well will be abandoned.\n \nPictured\,  from left to right:  Steve Jones – CEO Suffolk County Water\, Vivian Viloria Fisher- Suffolk County legislator\, Cliff Sondock -Executive Director\, The Land Use Institute:
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/steve-jones-water-and-land-use-principles/
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SUMMARY:Dr Matt Cordaro\, Dean of College of Management\, LIU
DESCRIPTION:Dr Cordaro\, Dean of the School of Management at LIU\, gave us an overview of the courses that are being offerred at the LIU\, which included criminal justice\, social work\, and not for profit. But that was the usual list of special training. What I thought was more interesting and important was the approach to teaching at the graduate level.\n \nMatt spoke of accreditation. Accreditation is a big item\, and standards are adhered to\, to create the quality of education that is widely respected. Universities on Long Island are very competitive. Most of them are keenly aware of the need to excel.  According to Cordaro\, this results in lifting the standards of all schools.\n \nThe MBA oriented “Accelerated International Business Program” is a concept that I thought was particularly interesting. The IABP is a one year program  beginning at the Post campus\, continuing in London\, and completing in Paris. It is easy to see why a program such as this would be popular. This is the kind of innovation that teaches a lot more than the formal course work.\n \nThere is  globalization of education has students coming from all over the world. There is also cooperation in teaching. There is a US and China university program that results in a diploma being issued from both LIU and the Chinese counterpart. \n \nCordaro spoke about the “non traditional” student. The older person\, the retired person\, and the otherwise fully employed. Accommodating these students is challenging\, but there are courses available to them\, and they are not only are taught in the evening\, but Saturdays and Sundays. There are also on-site programs that are being developed for large companies\, and these programs have been around for some time. As our lives\, and perception of our needs continue to change\, these programs are expanding and becoming more numerous. \n \nOne of my questions to Matt was; How does higher education teach “common sense”? I was surprised to hear that common sense is a consideration. And while being a rote student may lead to high marks\, a good education requires a sense of all things\, in total being considered.\n \nWhen Dr Cordaro has spoken at LIMBA in the past the topic was electrical energy. We didn’t let him go without him addressing at least one question. According to Cordaro\, LIPA has done a good job of increasing the amount of available power. He feels they have fallen short of the mark when it comes to cycling out old transformers and other infrastructure. The system is vulnerable because this kind of maintenance must be on schedule\, or failures will come with the stress of hot weather appears. \n \nPictured: Mike DeLouise\, Dowling College\, Terry Townsend\, Dowling College\, Dr. Matthew Cordaro\, our speaker From LI University \n \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/dr-matt-cordaro-dean-of-college-of-management-liu/
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SUMMARY:Dr Lee Koppleman\, Planning and the Region
DESCRIPTION:Dr Lee Koppelman spoke at LIMBA and it has been about 12 years since he last spoke there. The master planner was generally in good spirits about the way Long Island has developed.\nHe began by citing the economic importance of the Long Island region. Suffolk County\, for example\, is still the largest agricultural county in the state of New York. Long Island with an annual Gross Domestic Product of $130 billion is bigger than more than half of the states in the union\, and bigger than most of the counties in the world.\n \nHe proudly pointed out the Hauppauge Industrial Park as an important contributor to this healthy economy. According to Koppelman It is a model for the rest of the country\, and possibly the most important facility of its kind. Lee reminded us of an earlier time when Long Island lost 110\,000 skilled jobs with the demise of the then\, robust defense industry\, but it was that defense industry that provided Long Island with the intellectual assets we needed to transform this economy and diversify. Dr. Koppelman expressed some concern about outsourcing\, but not because of call centers popping up in India\, but the loss of the good manufacturing jobs.\n \nDr Koppelman is the author of several pieces of legislation that protects open land\, and while he is happy that those measures were adopted\, in most cases the voters were more interested in arresting growth than aiding conservation.\n \nLee was less concerned about immigration than some of the pandering political types\, pointing out that as far immigration is concerned we’ve been there before. The Italians the Irish\, the Germans and the Jews were all “threats” in their time. The threat is not what it seems was the essence of his message.\n \nDr Koppelman was enthusiastic about our educational institutions and our world renown facilities at Cold Spring Harbor and Brookhaven National Labs. The future\, he feels will be very much shaped by these quality institutions and schools. And that future is heading in a positive direction. \n \nHe was less than sanguine about the prospects of rail freight when I asked a question about improving it\, citing objections from the passenger division and rail infrastructure deficiencies coming into NY City. (some of those problems are being addressed presently).\n \nDr Koppelan spoke breifly about the floating gas facility proposed by Broadwater and suggested that we allow the full process to proceed\, and learn as much as we can to see if this facility represents a net gain for the region. (That\, by the way\, is the position of LIMBA)\n \nHis biggest disappointment appeared to be the lack of sewers that will be needed to support better growth. The Southwest Sewer District scandal\, still has politicians running for cover whenever the topic is broached. Saying sewering to a politician is a little like Bud Abbot saying “Niagara Falls” to that maniac in that old  comedy classic film. (Sorry\, you have to be old enough to remember that bit)\n \n\nPictured: Judy McEvoy and Dr. Lee Koppelman
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/dr-lee-koppleman-planning-and-the-region/
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SUMMARY:Vivian Viloria Fisher
DESCRIPTION:Today our speaker was Vivian Viloria-Fisher. Vivian is a Suffolk County legislator. The conversation was focused on an important emotional issue involving illegal immigrant labor.\nThere is bill that requires that all Suffolk County contracts use legal labor. Viloria-Fisher was very good at presenting the issue and the various slants on the issue. Her presentation was a fair exposition of the motivations for voting on this issue\, whether you are for it or against it. Here are some of the implications\nThis bill is presented as having no cost. No cost? How then do you enforce a law that does not estimate the cost of enforcement\, which is required? The contractors that do business with the county who are operating on the up and up\, often expose the “cheaters” as they refer to them. Thereby rendering the law redundant. The law appears to supersede the federal immigration laws\, which is prohibited\, and lends this law to endless challenge and expense defending it. On the other side.\nThere is a perceived or real problem that deprives legitimate businesses of the opportunity to deal with the county on a level playing field. There have only been a few complaints against the county for engaging contractors who were hiring these illegal\, and therefore an expensive exercise in solving a problem that really doesn’t exist. Labor is divided on this issue and many of them think this legislation has the aura of racism associated with it.\nAt the end of the discussion Vivian gave us her feelings\, and she believed it was inappropriate for the county to adopt this legislation\, and was against it. The votes at the moment are 14 for\, and four against. It looks like a go.\nAnother piece of legislation that was discussed was a proposal to regulate scrap recyclers in a the same way as pawn brokers. The idea behind this legislation is to create a chain of custody of every bucket of brass\, every junked refrigerator\, every bucket of electricians scrap copper\, in order to track stolen metals. I read this piece of legislation\, and it is onerous. For example\, and this is one of many unmanageable requirements of this legislation\, a laborer who scrambles to pick up recyclable metals at a construction site would be considered a scrap dealer and would have to register as a scrap dealer. He would have to be bonded and licensed in order to be able to sell the scrap metal he picks up. Yeah! That aint happening. Moreover there have only been a handful of complaints. Another case of overkill? I think so!. \nPictured: Vivian Viloria Fisher\, Sufolk Legislator and Kevin Gershowitz from Gershow Recycling
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/vivian-viloria-fisher/
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