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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090410T000000
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SUMMARY:Good Friday - No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/good-friday-no-meeting-5/
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BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090403T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090403T000000
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CREATED:20090403T040000Z
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SUMMARY:Bob Yaro\, Pres of NY Reguinal Plan Association
DESCRIPTION: Since 1920 The NY Regional Plan Association has been instrumental in bringing most of New York City’s major infrastructure to reality. In recent years the RPA has reached out to the adjacent areas in New Jersey\, Long Island and Connecticut. to promote ideas that dovetail with the infrastructure of the entire region. I have asked Mr. Yaro to discuss some of the efforts that impact Long Island. Please join us for what should be an interesting meeting.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/bob-yaro-pres-of-ny-reguinal-plan-association/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090327T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090327T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
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SUMMARY:Steve Dierker Assoc Laboratory director-Light Source Project
DESCRIPTION:Our speaker this morning was Dr Steven  Dierker Associate Director of Brookhaven National Laboratories. The topic  of discussion was the new National Synchrotron Light Source II. This project has  been in the planning stage for a long time. The NLSL II will be working with  light in the X-ray range. The promise of the research that will be performed  with this technology is mind boggling\, starting with the physical size of the  instrument. \n  \nThe total commitment in dollars is just under $1  billion. Last week $170million was designated for the initial construction. This  will result in 850 construction jobs. The site was already prepared for the  work\, so this is a truly shovel ready project. The full time staff at this  facility will be 500 high paying\, high skilled jobs. The economic impact is very  significant. But the real excitement is the prospects of the work product that  will result. \n  \nA few years ago I was reading that the number of  these machines were being built in various other countries\, notably Switzerland  and China\, and that technology was surpassing the capacity of our original  research equipment. This new Synchrotron Light generator is 10\,000 times  brighter than anything that has been built anywhere in the world. This machine  is\, as the cliché states\, “a game changer.” The same can be said of the futures  it will be bring about. The ability to manipulate matter on a nano-scale means  the ability to create batteries for the energy use of future. The ability to  create new materials holds out the hope that we can build stronger\, and lighter  airplanes and surface transportation vehicles which in turn means that less  energy will be needed to move those vehicles. \n  \nBut the Challenging experimentation is not limited  to any one field. Advances in medicine are expected in studying Alzheimer’s and  many other maladies. We expect to be able to arrange the structures of  photovoltaic cells that produce electric current from the sun to generate many  times the power than present technology will allow. \n  \nThe immediate prospects of local busnesses  benefiting is encouraged by the lab. They will need the services of a wide  variety of providers. The different department heads were named\, so that people  in the room could contact the appropriate people that would be familiar with a  particular need. \n  \nBNL needs us\, and we need them. This commitment  from the federal government will advance science in a way that has not existed  since the 60’s\, and we have a great opportunity. \n\nErnie Fazio
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/steve-dierker-assoc-laboratory-director-light-source-project/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090320T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090320T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090320T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090320T040000Z
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SUMMARY:Alan Doctor- CUNY Center for Advanced Technology
DESCRIPTION:Alan Doctor was our speaker at LIMBA this morning. Alan is the Director  for Business Development at CUNY Center for Advanced Technology. The unit  assists businesses that are developing new techniques. \n  \nMr. Doctor outlined the requirements that allow a business to get  assistance. The economic impact is what is important. If it can be shown that a  large economic impact can be made\, than the chances of getting help is  increased. For each $1 provided the return has been $30. \n  \nThere are 15 separate units of CUNY-CAT around the state. Each one has a  separate focus. The one that Alan Doctor is affiliated specializes in photonics.  Projects range from the mundane to the exotic. He mentioned a project that is  developing “laser tissue welding\,” a process the promises plastic surgery  without scars. \n  \nWhen CUNY-CAT works with a client company they find an appropriate  university to work with. The level of assistance they give a company can be  substantial. It usually is about 50%. For small companies it may be as high as  80% while a very large company may only get 20% \n  \nCUNY is the 3rd largest university in the country and the  largest city university. \n  \nSPIR (Small Business Innovative Research) when providing funds does so in  phases. In phase I provides $100\,000 to flesh out a good idea. Phase II provides  $1\,000\,000 for product development. The third phase is commercialization. To be  selected for Phase I\, a panel rates the idea. Because there are usually more  requests than money to fund them\, the most promising technologies will survive\,  and be funded. Having successfully shown the viability of an idea\, getting Phase  II is a lot easier. \n  \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/alan-doctor-cuny-center-for-advanced-technology/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090313T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090313T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090313T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090313T040000Z
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SUMMARY:State Senator Brian Foley
DESCRIPTION:Mr. Foley began by reviewing the  origins of the revenue shortfalls. The reduction in income tax receipts derived  from mega-bucks bonuses on Wall Street\, and reduced sales taxes being among the  causes. We did not discuss any remedies\, because frankly\, there are none on the  horizon. \n  \nThe Senator went on to review  some of the positives that we have going in the state and locally. One of those  bright spots is The Center for Advanced Technology\, which has been granted $120  million from the federal stimulation fund. Another helpful agency has been the  Empire Zones\, which he considered extremely helpful to Long Island’s economy. He  also cited the IDA program but pointed out that while the IDA program has worked  well on Long Island it needs reform upstate. \n  \nThe federal stimulus plan will  address the needs of the MacArthur hub. New designs are being drawn for the area  to make the train and airport connections more efficient. I have no details to  report here. \n  \nOne of the questions from the  audience addressed the available money for energy efficiency. Mr. Foley  indicated that there would be increased funds for that purpose \n  \nBrian was asked about the cost of  K through 12 education costs\, and how do we support a system that is not cost  conscious. The senator answered the question from the point of view that better  funding methods are needed. He suggested that more money should come from the  state. I countered that the problem is centered on out of control costs. Getting  more money from the state is nice\, but the careless inefficient operations\,  along with 126 school districts and their overpaid administrators are the  problem. \n  \nEditorial note; The burden of  property taxes\, which are at least 70% attributable to school taxes\, has been  heaped on the people of Long Island. The load is difficult in a good economy and  totally unsustainable in troubled times. Yet these unchecked bureaucracies are  like little fiefdoms that are answerable to no one. School boards are intimately  intertwined with schools they are charged with overseeing. Teachers from  adjoining districts and vendors to the schools on boards are hardly the  watchdogs we need. Enough is enough\, and Atlas is about to shrug. \nErnie Fazio
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/state-senator-brian-foley/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090306T000000
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SUMMARY:Steve Levy\, County Executive
DESCRIPTION:This morning our speaker\, County Executive Steve  Levy began by taking back to where he believes the problems of under funding  began.  \n  \nThe county depends  on having sales taxes. A 1-cent reduction in sales taxes causes a revenue loss  of  $12million.  “Governments provide everything to everybody  when times are good. The real problem comes when executives in politics need to  make hard decisions. When that happens you need to maintain the intestinal  fortitude to do what you feel is right.” \n  \nMr. Levy cited the  removal of regular police from the highways and replacing them with sheriff  officers. These sheriffs are police trained personnel and are now patrolling the  Long Island Expressway\, but they earn about $42\,000 less than a year than  Suffolk County police. That savings amounted to $8 million. It also caused the  police union to launch a campaign against him. He felt he had to hold his ground  and not give in. \n  \nHe likened  controlling taxes as being compassionate. “How compassionate is it if taxes  drive people out of their homes? He asked. According to Levy\, there needs to be  sacrifices made by the public employees. It is more important to serve the much  larger public. \n  \nMr. Levy also  brought up the matter of the county getting out of the nursing home business.  “This need can be better served by the private sector\, we’re just not that good  at controlling costs” \n  \nIn general Steve  expressed the opinion that public employees should be at no competitive  advantage when compared to the private sector. “Handing over a check for  $200\,000 to pay a retiring police officer for his unused sick days is crazy. It  does not happen in business.” \n  \nMr. Levy supports  the investment in infrastructure. He cited the improvements on County Rd 39\,  near Southampton. CR 39 had been a bottleneck for years. It took 40 minutes to  travel 4 miles. Money was not available from the state to increase the overall  width of the highway. Levy said we’ll reduce the lane size and rebuild the  highway with our own funds. The planned lanes of 13 feet were built to a  standard of 11 feet. Now the traffic delays are greatly  reduced. \n  \nAnother  infrastructure issue is the bus system. He would like to expand it. The state  cites low ridership of the existing service for withholding funds. His reply\,  “expand service and ridership will increase” \n  \nDuring the Q&A  Levy was asked if should have a payroll tax to fund schools. “If you were  stating from scratch that could be an answer\, but the system in place would be  difficult to replace” \nErnie  Fazio
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/steve-levy-county-executive-3/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090305T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090305T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090305T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090305T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Helena Williams\, Presiden LIRR  (TBC)
DESCRIPTION:Ms Williams will bring us up to date on initiatives that will have been announced at that time. Please join us.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/helena-williams-presiden-lirr-tbc/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090227T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090227T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090227T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Ginny Fields-  5th Dist & Mike Fitzpatrick 7th dist NY Assem
DESCRIPTION:  \nThis morning we had a slightly different format. The speakers gave  us their take on the state of the schools and what a perverse effect taxes have  had on our region. 5th  Assembly representative Ginny Fields and 7th Assembly representative  Mike Fitzpatrick gave us opening statements on school taxes and  the reason for out of control costs. Presently Long Islanders are the second  highest taxed citizens in the nation. \n  \nThey pointed out to us that 70% of our property taxes are used for  schools. That percentage has risen from about 40% back in the 70’s. The schools  will tell you that the cost is high because the quality of education is high. At  the same time Suffolk Community College and SUNY reports that 30% of new  students need remedial reading. Obviously there is an inconsistency in these  numbers. \n  \nThe speakers were asked about the driving forces underlying the  increases. The reasons are many. One of the reasons is that all of the education  employees are still in Defined Benefit Plan pensions. The economic realities  have caused private companies to abandon DBP pensions years ago. To satisfy the  needs of these plans in economic bad times means considerably higher costs to  the taxpayer\, and as a result we can expect another whopping increase in school  taxes next year\, according to Mr. Fitzpatrick. \n  \nAnother problem is fraud and waste. Let’s talk about waste first.  The need to have as much administration in our schools as we do is not justified  by any argument that the school administrators can give us. It was pointed out  the Fire Island School district has 78 students and has a superintendent all its  own. That superintendent gets paid $178\,000 per year plus pension\, plus health  benefits\, sick days\, personal days and all of the other benefits usually  awarded. The total cost of that person is probably $228\,000. If you divide that  number by the number of pupils (78). That comes out to over $2900 per student  before you pay for a principal’s salary\, teachers\, building repairs\, property  insurance\, heat\, power\, and all other costs. \n  \nOne of the people in the audience had a copy of the Sayville  teacher’s union contract. The contract reflected a 28% increase over the next  four years. This is an unconscionable disregard for the taxpayers. \n  \nAnother reason for out of control cost is lack of countervailing  power. Unions and management agreements work best when the parties are of  similar power. The question is; who is there to tell the unions no? \n  \nThe school districts will tell you that the ludicrous number of  districts (126) is needed to maintain control\, but recent revelations by Newsday  that uncovered numerous phony pensions demonstrated that school districts have  no incentive to run a clean operation. Fraud simply does not matter as long as  they can stick the taxpayer with the bill. \n  \nIf you were in the audience this morning you know I covered only  the most salient points. The real picture is worse. \n  \n## Ernie Fazio ## \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/ginny-fields-5th-dist-mike-fitzpatrick-7th-dist-ny-assem/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090220T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090220T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090220T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090220T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Thomas DiNapoli NY State Comptoller- Confirmed
DESCRIPTION:With the state budget resraints and the accumulated needs of the state\, how are going to move forward? This and other questions will come up at our meeting. \nWe need to know what sacrifices can and will be made. Please join us to hear from Mr. DiNapoli. Tom is a hard working and thoughtful elected official. Please join us. \nErnie Fazio \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/thomas-dinapoli-ny-state-comptoller-confirmed/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090213T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090213T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090213T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090213T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Presidents Day weekend-No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/presidents-day-weekend-no-meeting-4/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090206T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090206T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090206T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090206T050000Z
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SUMMARY:No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/no-meeting-14/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090130T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090130T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090130T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Frank Petrone\, Huntington Town Supv.
DESCRIPTION:This morning Huntington Town\, Supervisor\, Frank  Petrone discussed his administrations efforts to create a better Huntington. He  credited the work of the then\, town councilman\, Steve Israel\, and himself for  forging an alliance across party lines. Israel was and is a Democrat and he was  a Republican. They both saw the benefit of working together in a problem-solving  mode. (Years later Petrone changed his affiliation to Democrat)\nThey  began a process of pre-planning to anticipate opposition and meet the demands of  the affected communities. Under that effort Canon was attracted to Huntington  and set up their North American headquarters in the town. This R&D facility  creates 2000 jobs. More importantly\, it attracts thousands of other jobs.\nIn  order recapture some of the picturesque qualities of the past\, what is referred  to a Huntington Village\, installed ornamental lighting\, brick sidewalks\, and  other amenities. The positive image has attracted many merchants to the Main  Street area and vacancies are hard to come by.\nHuntington Station on the other hand represented a much bigger challenge.  There were changes made there in the past that exacerbated this poorer area.  Huntington Station area has always been the residence of working class African  Americans and immigrants from various places. In blighted areas\, such as  Huntington Station crime and drugs root themselves easier than in upscale areas.  The program to “take back the blocks” was inaugurated. According to Petrone\, the  residences were informed and consulted and the quality citizens of the area have  more recently prevailed. The fact is that a program like this could not succeed  without the cooperation of the local residents.\nEvery  effort in new housing will value the concept of a walkable community. There is a  plan for more concentrated multiple dwellings that will allow for a community  center and a substantial park area.\nThere  is an effort to build out the infrastructure of sewers to accommodate growth\,  and that has been a daunting task. However there should be an opportunity  accomplish that under a federal infusion of infrastructure money.\nDuring  the Q&A\, a question about the LIRR proposed rail yard was asked. The yard  will help maximize the use of the East Side Access that is currently being  built. When trains from Long Island can go directly to Grand Central Station\,  these yards will be needed to store the additional rolling stock. This yard has  caused some people to object\, but they will likely be placed where the old  landfill was located. This is actually in the Town of Smithtown\, and while  electrification to that point will be expensive\, most agree that the added  expense is worth it. \nErnie Fazio
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/frank-petrone-huntington-town-supv/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090123T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090123T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090123T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090123T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Roger Corbin\, Nassau County Legislator
DESCRIPTION:We had a much bigger agenda this morning. Our speaker\,  Nassau County Legislator Roger Corbin\, was delayed by an accident on the  Expressway. \nTo fill the time we began an  in-depth discussion on MAGLEV. The information is below. \n  \nWhen Mr. Corbin did arrive he was his usual font of  information coupled with his usual lack of reticence when discussing Long  Island’s tax problems. According to Roger we could better manage tax revenues\,  and at the same time create a better outcome for everyone. The problems are  several. \nWe segregate communities in terms of wealth producing  industries\, and industry poor sections of the both counties. If we all  participated in the gross revenues derived from taxes\, no disparities in  education caused by low revenues would exist. As it turns out\, the wealthiest  communities have the vast majority of the industries; therefore the taxes in  Garden City with all of its industry will pay lower taxes than a place like  Uniondale where many of the people are quite poor. \n  \nIn addition the multiplicity of school districts creates an  overburden of bureaucracy. This layer of management justifies itself on the  basis of keeping local control. Yet\, as Corbin points out\, this local control  failed to control the many $millions in fraud that was written about in Newsday  last year. Nor did it prevent the phony pensions that were created by various  professional doing business with the districts. Facing these issues\, as they did  in Montgomery County Virginia\, will take desperate times and courageous  leadership. Corbin thinks we may have arrived at that juncture where the fraud\,  multiple layers of management and spurious claims on the taxpayers dollars can  no longer be tolerated. \n  \nMontgomery County Virginia has a demographic that is  roughly similar to Long Island. They were where we are now. They junked a system  of managing schools that is sadly similar to what we are dealing with. After  successfully making that change\, they began to look at other facets of their  municipal structures. The Fire department sanitation\, and other services were  later consolidated. We can and must address this stupidity. \n  \nMy friend\, and mentor Paul Townsend beat this drum for  years to little avail. Maybe now the pain is severe enough. \n\nPictured : Terry Townsend\, Ernie Fazio\, Roger Corbin and Bill Miller \n  \n\nMAGLEV Train Transportation Technology\n  \nThe concept of magnetically levitated vehicles has been  known for a long time. In the 1960’s Drs Gordon Danby and James Powell at  Brookhaven National Laboratories pursued the invention. Their basic design was  developed in Germany and Japan and small lines were built in those countries and  in China. The Chinese adopted the German version of the technology. \nIn the United States there were several plans to build out  a system and those plans are still out there. Senator Moynihan was a champion of  these systems and had he lived they probably would have been built \n  \nIn the meantime the original inventors never stopped  perfecting the design. The result is that the system that could be built today  is more economically viable than the original designs\, or the designs that were  actually built in Germany\, Japan and\, China. \n  \nThe original designs required a small clearance. That small  clearance of 3/8 of an inch dictated that the guideway be constructed with very  precise tolerances. This design was expensive to execute and it was inherently  incompatible with conventional rail. The present design has clearances of 4 ½  inches and this allows the construction pieces of the guideway to be  mass-produced\, reducing the production and construction costs. It appears that  the cost of the Chinese system was $90 million/mile. The new design would be in  the order of $22 million/mile. That is still not cheap\, but it is economically  viable. \n  \nThe MAGLEV is powered by linear sequential motors that  drive the vehicle forward at the same time powerful magnets levitate it. Because  there is no rolling stock friction\, the only impediment to motion is air  resistance\, which is negligible at low speeds. At high speeds in excess of 300  miles/hour there is considerable resistance moving through air at sea level.  Therefore while the theoretical speed may be much higher\, as a practical matter  the energy needed to go faster than 300 MPH would diminish the inherent  efficiency of this mode of transportation. \n  \nThree hundred MPH is quite fast\, and while it does not  match the 550 MPH achievable by aircraft at 30\,000 feet in rarified air\, it has  the advantage of being closer to the final destination of the traveler. In other  words a traveler leaving Grand Central Station in New York going to Union  Station in Albany\, would have a travel time that was similar to air travel.  However\, without the trip to and from the airport on each end of the journey\,  and departure delays\, they would reach their destination sooner. \n  \nThe new system is compatible  with existing rail. The same example of a New York City to  Albany would be economically and logistically impossible without the ability to  travel on existing roadbeds. By placing the operating pods on the outside of  existing track the vehicle is lifted and propelled down these modified tracks at  a more modest speed (approximately 120 miles/hour) when approaching and leaving  the cities. When it reaches a point outside the city it would transfer to a  dedicated elevated guideway.   When the MAGLEV emerges into open territory\, it can  travel at its recommended speed of 300 MPH \n  \nWhat is probably most significant is  the economic viability of the new system because it will be able to transport  trucks. The cost of moving freight by trucks is substantial. With the new  system\, tractor trailers can drive on and drive off the MAGLEV after traveling  hundreds or thousands of miles at 300 MPH using less energy than the truck at 60  MPH. The MAGLEV would have to capture only a small percentage of these trips to  pay for itself in 5 years.    \n  \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/roger-corbin-nassau-county-legislator/
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BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090116T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090116T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090116T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090116T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Martin Luther King Holiday weekend -No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/martin-luther-king-holiday-weekend-no-meeting-2/
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BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090109T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090109T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090109T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Doug Mandich \,  President Empire Bank
DESCRIPTION:Our speaker this morning was Empire Bank Chairman and CEO\,  Douglas Manditch. \n\nI suppose the conventional wisdom among bankers may be that  the banks need to be bailed out. Not according to Manditch. Doug said instead of  getting bail out money these folks should be going to jail. Paraphrasing Doug\,  Jail ‘em\, don’t bail ‘em. \n  \nThe banking system was turned on its head (my words not  his) because of false expectations. Mr. Manditch said the mortgage problems were  the product of false expectations. If you borrowed for a house using a low  interest loan that would later go up\, there would be no problem. By that time  you will be making more money\, and there would always be an eager buyer to take  the house off your hand at a higher price. Well it didn’t happen that way\, as we  all now know. \n  \n As far as AIG and Citibank are concerned\, they  should have been relegated to the scrap heap. They are unmanageable in the best  of circumstances\, and any attempt to rescue them continues the  problem. \n  \nDoug was generally reassuring about the way things will  eventually turn out. Not that there will be no pain\, but we will recover after  we have paid for the sins of the past. “We’ve been there before\, and while this  recovery may be somewhat more painful\, we will  be OK again.”  He did not think that the measures taken so  far have been particularly useful. In fact they may make recovery  slower. \n  \nThe thinking that Manditch did like was a true energy plan\,  and building infrastructure He noting that it will provide jobs\, and it will  improve efficiencies for later growth\, but it may not make the recovery any  faster. He also said that a floating tax on gasoline that would stabilize the  cost at $4 per gallon made sense. The excess revenues should be directed to  alternative energy research. \n  \nMr. Manditch spoke about Madoff and said a charity that he  had been a board member of was invested. He didn’t understand the investments  and motivated the charity to get out. They did\, despite some grumbling from some  board members. He pointed out that financial statements are often obscure\, these  were totally opaque. I pointed out that those investors should have gotten a  clue with a name like “made-off’. \n  \nThese are matters that affect us profoundly and many  bankers are running their operations using sound principles\, according to  Manditch. That’s the good news. \n\nThis was a meeting rich in content  and a lively Q&A. 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/doug-mandich-president-empire-bank/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090107T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090107T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090107T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090107T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Meeting with Red Line and [owell and Danby Calverton
DESCRIPTION:Red line RR from California is sending a rep to Calverton
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/meeting-with-red-line-and-owell-and-danby-calverton/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090102T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090102T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090102T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090102T050000Z
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SUMMARY:No Meeting Holiday
DESCRIPTION:
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/no-meeting-holiday-5/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20090101T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20090101T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20090101T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20090101T050000Z
UID:4380-1230768000-1230768000@limba.net
SUMMARY:New Years Day No Meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/new-years-day-no-meeting/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081226T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081226T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081226T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081226T050000Z
UID:4324-1230249600-1230249600@limba.net
SUMMARY:No Meeting Holiday
DESCRIPTION:
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/no-meeting-holiday-4/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081219T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081219T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081219T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081219T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Michael Coleman  News 12
DESCRIPTION:Today our  speaker was Michael Coleman\, Sports Director with News 12 Long Island. \nMichael’s  mission was to tell us about the importance of local sports news. Of course  there is also the larger spectrum of sports news that he covers\, but News 12 is  more apt to cover the local teams from high schools and colleges than the city  based operations. \n  \nHe gave us  his personal history as it relates to being where he is today. He grew up in  Kansas. When he went to college he set his sights on broadcast communications.  Being an athlete\, and being interviewed himself while in high school\, he  understood the need for athletes to be well spoken. More importantly\, the person  doing the interview should be articulate. Today when Michael speaks to athletes\,  he will often speak to the coach first\, and ask him who is best able to make the  team look good. Who on the team will present a good image of the  team. \n  \nMr. Coleman  appears to think of sports as a great personal building tool. He recognizes that  few players will achieve pro sport ability\, but the lessons learned in sports  can be transferred to what he calls “Plan B.” In other words being in training  to be a doctor or an engineer\, or a teacher has to be the goal in most cases.  Being able to carry off a professional athletic career is rare and should not be  counted on. \n  \nHe didn’t say  so\, but I got the feeling that he was a pretty good athlete himself. The  experience made him understand the job he is presently doing\, and no doubt\, he  is better at doing it\, in part\, because of the experience he had as an  athlete. \n 
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/michael-coleman-news-12/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081212T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081212T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081212T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081212T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Holiday Party Breakfast
DESCRIPTION:Jim Graseck demonstrated his highly trained  abilities with the violin. He played traditional music of the season and some  other works. With Jim it’s not just about playing superbly\, but connecting to  the audience. His ability to speak to the audience in humorous exchanges while  playing intricate pieces has earned him the moniker  “The Victor Borge of the  Violin” \n  \nJim was there early and played for the guests as  they found their friends and seating. Then he played an opening set of songs and  fun exchanges with the audience. \n  \nVince Dantona is a remarkably witty ventriloquist  with a dummy named George. He did about 30 minutes of tailored routine. I gave  him a list of people I knew would attend and something personal about them. That  gave Vince a place to start from. While speaking to the audience\, if anybody  threw Vince a curve by saying something unexpected “George” had a slapdown witty  reply. But I scared George when I asked him if he knew what a wood chipper  was. \n  \nVince was the opening act for Ray Romano when he  worked the club circuit and LIMBA has asked him to perform in the past. Jim  closed the breakfast with some additional songs leaving us all a little more  uplifted that the times dictate. \n  \nIt is a pleasure to have these talented individuals  for our otherwise serious forum. I’ll paraphrase a bit here. Man does not live  on bread alone; sometimes we need laughs and music. That’s what we had on Friday  morning \n  \nEnjoy your holidays. These are precious  moments \nErnie Fazio \n  \nPictured: Jim Graseck \n  \nMore photos available here….
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/holiday-party-breakfast/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081205T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081205T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081205T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081205T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Gerry Fitz - High Speed Fuel Efficient Ferries
DESCRIPTION:Friday morning’s speaker was Gerry Fitzpatrick.  Gerry is a principal in SES\, a company that has ownership in a new ship  technology that would not only go fast (excess of 50 MPH) but would do so using  considerably less fuel than a conventional vessel. Getting vessels to go fast  has been done in the past at the cost of using engines with enormous horsepower\,  but that means using a lot of fuel. Fitzpatrick’s design actually uses less than  the conventionally powered ships. \n  \nFitzpatrick is  well versed in the technology and provided an interesting and understandable  explanation of how it would work. The vessel is a version of “surface effect”  technology. Surface Effect vessels operate on the principle that if the hull can  be lifted out of the water than the drag of plowing through the water is greatly  reduced. So while surface effect technology is not new\, SES’s technology  is new.  \n  \nI asked Fitzpatrick to cite the advantages and  features that make the design desirable. The problems caused by ship wakes are  almost eliminated with his design. Another feature is that because the  draft  (how deep it sits in the water) is  much less than conventional craft\, it can navigate in shallower  water. \n  \nWe discussed the viability of using such a craft  between Shoreham and New Haven. The answer was that the trip could be a short as  35 minutes\, and it would work very well. But according to Fitzpatrick it’s  greater benefit may be in using it to connect places along the Connecticut shore  to Manhattan\, or places along the Hudson Valley to Manhattan. Using larger ships  of this design may be useful in moving trucks along the ports of the east coast  and removing them from the I-95 corridor. \n  \nUnder the same ownership is a  company called Greenworld Marketing. The company sells lubricating oils derived  from animal fats. Disposal of animal fats have been an on-going problem for the  meat industry. Greenworld products make use of these oils and the end product is  completely biodegradable when they are eventually discarded. The added benefits  are that these oils are less expensive than petroleum oils and can be used in a  broader array of applications than vegetation based products. Fitzpatrick says  the products are already being well  received.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/gerry-fitz-high-speed-fuel-efficient-ferries/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081128T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081128T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081128T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081128T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Thanksgiving weekend-no meeting
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URL:https://limba.net/calendar/thanksgiving-weekend-no-meeting/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081121T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081121T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081121T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081121T050000Z
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SUMMARY:LIMBA Round Table
DESCRIPTION:  \nThis morning we conducted a LIMBA RoundTable Discussion. There was much to report. \nThis week the new Advanced Energy Research and Development Center that is being built on the campus of SUNY Stony Brook held a 2-day conference at the Hyatt Windwatch in Hauppauge. There were many interesting ideas presented on alternate energy\, conservation and innovation. One of the issues that have been the concern of large-scale wind and solar providers is the robustness of the transmission grid\, or more precisely\, the lack thereof. One of the speakers addressed that very topic. Ed Reinfurt\, Executive Director of the New York State Foundation for Science\, Technology and Innovation made an impassioned speech on building a power highway that will get our renewable energy plants power to our major centers of population. He claimed that the system has not kept up with the times. He will be speaking at LIMBA in January.  \nWe also discussed the Mag-Lev train. I met with the inventors at the conference after they made a presentation on the “2nd Generation Mag-Lev” Drs. Danby and Powell have designed and built a prototype of the new concept in Florida. The new guide way system can be built at a fraction of the cost of the original design. The new design allows the Mag-Lev to operate on the same track as conventional rail when entering cities using a modified guide way between the tracks. This will make the vehicle capable of entering Grand Central and Penn station at conventional speeds and then ramping up to 350 m/p/h on its own dedicated guideways outside of the city.  \nMag-Lev is important because it is an electric technology and uses 1/10 the fuel per passenger than conventional rails. The vehicle can also transport trucks in a roll-on roll-off operation. This technology plays into the new energy initiatives being promoted by congressman Israel. We\, at LIMBA\, intend to make Mag-Lev a focus of our efforts going forward because Long Island has the knowledge base to make it happen.  \nWe also discussed congressman Nadler’s proposed tunnel from Bayonne to Brooklyn. All of the elements we discussed have a symbiosis and present enormous opportunities for the Long Island region. Look for a detailed presentation of Mag-Lev on the LIMBA website within a few weeks.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/limba-round-table/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081114T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081114T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081114T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081114T050000Z
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SUMMARY:William Cronin The NY Port Authority
DESCRIPTION:This morning  our speaker was William Cronin from the New York Port Authority. Mr. Cronin’s  expertise is in the shipping operations of the Port\, but was quite knowledgeable  on other aspects of the NYPA operations. \nBill began by  giving us a little history. The NYPA was originally created to coordinate rail  service from New Jersey to New York\, and facilitate a smooth transfer of goods  through several jurisdictions. Then the Holland Tunnel was built to create a  better revenue stream and subsequently the Lincoln Tunnel was added\, as was the  George Washington Bridge. \n  \nIdlewild  Airport\, and LaGuardia Airports were owned by the city of New York and Newark  Airport was owned by the city of Newark. All of these became NYPA properties. In  the 70’s The World Trade Center was built and a companion project was the PATH  train link to NJ \n  \nToday Port  Newark and Port Elizabeth is a big part of the NYPA responsibilities and the  security for all of these operations is a formidable task. \n  \nRecently NYPA  acquired New York- New Jersey Rail LLC. The purpose of this acquisition was to  reactivate a\, long out of use\, rail link and bridge that would bring rail  freight traffic to Staten Island where it could be barged across the Narrows and  delivered to Brooklyn. Brooklyn has rail links that connect to Long Island. In  fact these are the very same rail links that congressman Nadler referred to when  he made his presentation at LIMBA for a tunnel from New Jersey to Brooklyn.  Nadler has made federal money available for the initial study of this idea\, but  Cronin told us the NYPA was not interested\, indicating that it was not a viable  idea\, so they refused the money. \n  \nDuring the  Q&A portion of the meeting I asked Mr. Cronin\, “If this barge link is such a  good idea\, why not get behind Mr. Nadler’s proposal for the tunnel?” Bill Cronin  said the NYPA simply did not think it was a good idea. \n  \nI wrote this piece late in the  afternoon and by the time I put my recap together I found in my Email in-box two  notes dated yesterday and today\, that were attached to an email from Bill  Cronin. NYPA reversed their decision to complete a feasibility study on creating  the tunnel that congressman Nadler proposed. The study will now go forward. This  is very good news for the region and Long Island. Mr. Nadler was thrilled with  the decision. \n  \nIt is true Long Island can  substantially increase rail freight with quicker and less costly fixes\, but this  is the kind of robust infrastructure the region needs to support the growing  economy of Long Island. This is a scoop folks and you heard it here first.  You’ll be reading about it.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/william-cronin-the-ny-port-authority/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081107T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081107T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081107T050000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081107T050000Z
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SUMMARY:Charles Wang- The Lighthouse Development
DESCRIPTION:This morning our speaker was Paul Lancey\, Senior VP  of The Lighthouse Development Group. The proposed building of a large multi-use  site at what is sometimes referred to as the “Nassau Hub” has impressed many\,  and at the same time caused others to object. \n  \nMr. Lancey went through the various elements of the  plan\, which included the central part of this vision. A modernization and  renovated of the Nassau Coliseum\, residences of varying cost and size that can  be purchased and a sizeable number of rental apartments. \n  \nThere is\, as part of the plan to have addedional  office space in the mix. These offices would lend themselves to use by people  occupying the residential section.  There  will be open recreational areas\, a canal with architecturally appealing bridges.  The canal will have a promenade with café’s adjacent the canal to accommodate  outdoor dining in good weather. \n  \nThere will be a sports oriented business center  devoted to fitness\, sports medicine\, and sports technical equipment. These  sports oriented businesses will be useful to the surrounding universities and  the professional sports teams located at the coliseum \n  \nAll of the infrastructure will be tied together by  being a generally walkable 150 acre complex. In addition it will be served by  buses. The need for transportation links to the Long Island Railroad has not  been included in the plan\, but it is apparent that a light rail connector would  greatly enhance the overall plan. \n  \nThis proposal has been around for about 5 years and  though it has been modified somewhat to answer the concerns of critics\, but it  still has not come to fruition. The frustration of the developers was apparent  in the presentation.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/charles-wang-the-lighthouse-development/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081031T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081031T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081031T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081031T040000Z
UID:4326-1225411200-1225411200@limba.net
SUMMARY:No Meeting
DESCRIPTION:
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/no-meeting-13/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081024T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081024T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081024T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081024T040000Z
UID:4310-1224806400-1224806400@limba.net
SUMMARY:Congressman Steve Israel - Energy Policy for the US
DESCRIPTION:Congressman Steve Israel has been concentrating on putting his efforts into creating a  robust national energy plan. That plan will have a dramatic impact on business opportunities for Long Island. LIMBA has asked the congressman to address his remarks to some of the specifics that he would like to see happen. Please join us on Friday Oct 24th. Pre registration is a must for this event \nErnie Fazio \n \nVideo of the event is available thanks to MyLITV.com.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/congressman-steve-israel-energy-policy-for-the-us/
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BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081017T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081017T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081017T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081017T040000Z
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SUMMARY:Jim Staudenraus\, 1st Assm. Karen Kerr-Ozimek9 dis. candidate
DESCRIPTION:This morning’s meeting at LIMBA  was a little different from our usual format. \nWe had two speakers Jim  Stadenraus Republican Candidate foe the 1st Assembly district and Karen  Kerr-Ozimek\, Democratic candidate for the 9 Assembly district. \nEach candidate was given 15  minutes to introduce themselves\, and their immediate concerns. \nJim began by outlining his  program for reform. He supports the 4% tax cap proposal that Governor Paterson  has put forth. He would also like to see districts amalgamating their purchases  for supplies and services to increase buying power. This would not root out the  many redundant administration\, but it would likely reduce costs of school  operations. \nAccording to Stadenraus\, the  taxpayers would be better served if there were a single state teachers system.  The salaries would be higher on Long Island because a cost of living factor  would be built in\, but the difference of salaries between local school districts  would be small or non-existent. Neither Kerr-Ozimek nor Stadenraus mentioned  anything about teachers salaries being too high\, but they are convinced that the  school system can be reformed to get the taxpayers a lot more mileage from tax  dollars by virtue of better management. \nKaren Kerr-Ozimek suggested that  a review of the entire school system was in order. There are no effective  internal checks on this enormous system\, and the fruits of that neglect were  demonstrated when the investigation into school lawyers was uncovered by  Newsday. \nBoth candidates were more or  less on the same page despite the fact that they are running in opposing  parties\, though not against each other. Jim Stadenraus quoted that old chestnut\,  “Nothing focuses the mind like the prospect of being hanged.” Being under the  yoke of the highest taxes in the country with the real possibility of it getting  worse\, does not have the same severity of being hanged\, but the problem has  gotten us a little more focused. \nThe economic stress the country  and this region is experiencing has given us an opportunity to reassess what we  are getting for our money. Anytime we are stressed by adversity we are either  crushed\, or we gather the resources and imagination to do better than we ever  have. Perhaps we are at that critical juncture.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/jim-staudenraus-1st-assm-karen-kerr-ozimek9-dis-candidate/
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DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20081010T000000
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20081010T000000
DTSTAMP:20260423T041802
CREATED:20081010T040000Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20081010T040000Z
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SUMMARY:Kevin O'Neill - John Engeman Theater in Northport
DESCRIPTION:Today we had the pleasure of hearing  from a passionate advocate of fine Theater experiences in a local jewel  setting – The John Engeman Theater.  Mr. O’Neill\, an ex bond trader turned theater impresario\, plays Bloom  to Richard Dolce’s Bialystock\, filling the house and running the infrastructure\,  where Mr. Dolce concentrates on staging Broadway quality productions in a  luxurious four hundred seat theater space.  The seats are roomy\, and the ladies  will appreciate the more ample bathroom facilities\, long a bane of the Manhattan  theater scene.  The only year round Actor’s Equity house on Long Island\, the  renovations that took the single screen seven hundred seat movie theater to its  current stage incarnation included the previously mentioned bathrooms\, and a  warren of dressing rooms underneath the building\, to make its New ! York based  troupes more comfortable.  Casting and Rehearsals are done in the city\, with a  cast shuttle bus to make sure everybody makes curtain. \n  \nThe business angle is to cultivate  the season subscriber\, with seven shows a year\, flexible seating and  scheduling.  The reasonable price of $355 per seat per season makes it a  low-risk purchase.  Reviews have been consistently good of all the productions\,  and surrounding restaurants like Skipper’s are running dinner + show packages.   The theater is a great complement to the village\, a beautiful physical presence\,  and a vital social component.  The inviting piano bar\, "The Green Room" is open  to ticket holders an hour before curtain\, closed during the first act\,  reopens for intermission\, and then opens to the public after the show.  You may  get a treat from a cast member who hangs around to belt out a couple of specials  from time to time. \n  \nMr. O’Neill used a sports venue  analogy to the marketing of the theater.  Season subscribers\, single ticket  purchasers\, and groups are the three target markets.  Quality\,  entertaining theater in a luxurious environment are the drawing cards.   Angst-ridden Chekov plays will probably not find themselves staged  here.  Flexible plans for groups are available for fundraisers and such.   Corporate rewards or entertainment programs can arrange a private performance of  the current run based on the size of their audience. \n  \nThe Q&A was threaded throughout  the discussion\, focused mostly on the differences between the Engeman and other  Long Island houses\, and the merits of quality theater without the schlep into  Manhattan.  Once again\, another well-spent Friday morning at LIMBA. \n  \n Recap Written by Craig Plunkett of cedx.com. \n  \nSub note; John W. Engeman was a 28  year veteran of the military when he was killed in Iraq. Mr. Engeman is the  brother-in-law of theater founder Kevin O’Neil. The theater bears Engeman’s name  as a tribute.
URL:https://limba.net/calendar/kevin-oneill-john-engeman-theater-in-northport/
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